Not an easy task to find the right words.
If there is nobody to experiment nor observe, who realizes?
Not the individual. Or at least, not individual consciousness, since it itself disappears.
Sorry not to be able to state my meaning more clearly.
Thanks for your presence.
Answer from Master Kosen
Do no look for an answer in individual consciousness, the new consciousness is interdependent, universal.
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